Yes, red should be brought back up for all of those possibilities. It is an illegally potted ball after all. Thought about another sport to compare it with, came up with golf. When a golfer hits a ball out of bounds (off the legal playing area), the ball comes back on to the legal playing area. So, ...

Just because he`s ahead and I`m behind, doesn`t mean that he`s playing the best of the two. Why shouldn`t the red come back up? Why, when just the six colours left do they get re-spotted when potted and go in-off? What`s good for the goose is good for the gander! :D I don`t like it... and I won`t ha...

3. If you (the player already behind) pot the last red and go in off does the same apply? If not why not?
No, because opponent doesn`t need a snooker to win.

Ok, so the red to be re-spotted in the middle of the baulk cushion, to avoid the free ball.

I`m saying only when it means you now need snookers when you didn't before, and the red to placed as near to the middle of the black cushion as possible.

Let me simplify my point. My opponent pots a red and goes in-off (regardless of whether it`s deliberate or not), which leaves me now needing a snooker to win, whereas before the foul shot there was enough points to win the frame. So...the red he potted ILLEGALLY stays down...leaving me needing a sno...

Correct.....2644.

Your prize of £500.....will be donated on your behalf to a charity of my choice.

Lengthy explanation Wizard, but you seem to have missed my point completely.

SquaredCue wrote: ↑

Fri May 05, 2023 8:53 am

Captain-Fantastic wrote: ↑

Thu May 04, 2023 11:17 pm

Same set up, 2622 balls, 6 of them are the colours, 1 is the cue ball, what would be the lowest scoring total clearance possible?

I think the lowest possible break score after clearing the table is 2635 points.

How did you arrive at 2635?

Okay so there's 2622 balls and 6 of them are colours, 1 is a cue ball and the rest are reds Assuming the ridiculous (like you got no room to move but let's just say if you did) what is the maximum break? @Captain-Fantastic just when you thought it was over ;) Same set up, 2622 balls, 6 of them are ...

Thank @#%& for that!!!

What`s the answer....goddamit!!!

I`m not saying he plays to pot the red and go in off on purpose. He pots the red and goes in off....accidently or on purpose. My point is, a player shouldn`t benefit from a foul shot. When you think about it...why don`t the colours stay down when potted and go in off?....when only the colours are le...

Hmmmm....so how can it be worked out then?...

Well I don`t like it, and I won`t have it!!!
In a similar situation where there are no reds left, just the six colours, the coloured ball would be respotted, so why can`t the red be put back on the table in the first instance?.....maybe in the center of the black cushion.

Something is wrong when a player is rewarded for a foul shot in snooker. eg....with only one red left on the table......and you are 30 points behind. the other player pots the red and goes in off, which is a foul shot....but now you need a snooker, where as before the foul shot you could win. So the...